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Like all the rest of you, I'm delighting in the reams and reams of new stories and art (and this year's art is especially terrific!). There's the granddaddy, [livejournal.com profile] merry_smutmas, and then others like [livejournal.com profile] harry_holidays, [livejournal.com profile] hd_holidays, [livejournal.com profile] smutty_claus, [livejournal.com profile] lupin_snape.... an embarrassment of riches!

As we are encouraging each other as writers and artists, I'm trying to leave feedback as well. One thing that caught my notice, though, has left me feeling uneasy, and I wondered what your views are: In your opinion, is it uncouth to leave concrit that's negative on a fest fic? (Disclosure: this is not anything that's happened regarding my own fic, just other folk's.)

I don't see the author requesting any, for one thing. Personally, I won't do it, but then I never leave anything less than praise unless I'm asked specifically and privately. If I don't like something, I just pass it by. Which unfortunately is the same response to something I've not yet read, so the writer is never sure if I'm unhappy or just behind (if the writer even cares what I think), but there you go.

But IMHO, these stories are gifts. And I can't see criticising a gift. Am I over-sensitive? What do you authors and artists think?

Date: 2006-12-09 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] best-of-five.livejournal.com
yeah, see, i don't see it that away (obviously) :)

i think if a writer said this fic is only for so and so and others shouldn't read it, then the traditional notions of gifter and giftee apply. otoh, when the number of compliments/reactions/squee from others is somehow meant to enhance the "value" of the gift, i think of it as just another fic posted for public consumption under the guise of a ficathon.

i am not sure why a recipient would be affected by concrit? surely there are a 1001 ways to fulfill a request and a specific piece of concrit is presumably aimed at that particular story. if it were a gift for me, i would like to read what others' reactions were. -shrugs-

if the problem is that the concrit is not posted on one's own lj, then presumably that's a mod's "space" issue? but in my head, if the mod wanted to disable concrit then he/she should not invite public feedback either, atleast the way the logic follows for me. they are making it a public forum and the rules of regular "posted in public" apply.

interesting.

Date: 2006-12-09 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
To address only the "why would the recipient be affected by concrit" issue: in the comments that sparked this latest round of posts, there were a lot of instances of "why would you write character X as a bottom? That's totally stupid!" and the like, which...okay, the author only did it because the recipient asked for it.

If you were at a work gift exchange or a family gift exchange and somebody received...let's say a novelty t-shirt that you'd never wear in a million years, and the recipient said "Oh my God! Thank you! I never thought anybody would take my hint that I wanted this!"...would you say loudly "Damn, you have hideous taste and the person who bought it for you was just enabling you?" I doubt it. You might say that later to your friends, but probably not in that setting.

Or..you might. :)

Date: 2006-12-09 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] best-of-five.livejournal.com
yeah, i don't think those comments count as "concrit" do they? more like "omgspurofthemomentilostcontrolofmybrain" comments :)

yeah, that analogy to fic exchanges still doesn't work for me. i don't buy the fandom as a giant family nor do i think of the fic as "meant for only one person" in a way that the gift is. i mean, in your scenario, if the t-shirt was given to one person and then circulated for everyone to wear? when it was my turn to wear it, i would totally say "this looks hideous ON ME for such and such reasons but the colour and the wording are so clever". that's the closest i can draw that analogy :)

Date: 2006-12-09 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
That's why I included a group at work, not just family, because no...I don't think everyone in fandom is my sister or brother. :)

But if people were passing the shirt around and saying if anyone *wanted* to wear the shirt, they could, well...I'd do just like I do (these days) when joints are being passed around: I just pass it on and turn to more interesting things.

Date: 2006-12-09 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] best-of-five.livejournal.com
LOL. fandom as a pot exchange. that's a good one.

omg. if my workplace was that crazy like fandom i would p'bably quit :D

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