Migration issues

[geoviki]

I will catch up with who's going/has gone where some day. Today is not that day. It's the first weekend I've been home in the past 3 and I have a ton of stuff in RL to catch up on.

One thing I wanted to point out to those of you who are posting on all 4 journals using the slick Semagic method:

Yeah, it allows you to easily mirror your posts, but remember that those of us who respond will pick only one of them to answer. That means that if I answer that post on GJ and Mary Sue answers on IJ and Sparkly Poo answers on LJ, you will get all our comments, but Mary Sue, Sparkly Poo, and I will no longer be interacting with each other, and some of our fandom connectivity will be gone.

Food for thought.

Comments

[emmagrant01.livejournal.com]

I know, and that's what really sucks about this whole thing. :-(

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

I have to say that there are lot of fans who are out of the blocks before I have even processed the sound of the gun.

[anjenue.livejournal.com]

That's totally right. I think that's why I like the whole RSS thing - that way, there's no pressure for any of us to pick a journaling site just because that's where a large majority of people ended up, because we can just read RSS feeds of others' journals from our friendspage on our preferred journal, and then having an account over at the other sites just makes it easier for us to comment over there.

That said, hi you. ♥

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

Hi you, too! (pretends I know how to make that heart thingie)

Except I have a lot of friends. Do I spend the time setting up RSS feeds for all of them, or do I keep on wallowing in my inertia? hahahaha!

One thing I do know is that RSS feeds can't use cut tags, so you get each and every cat macro your friend has cut on their own post.

Meeeeoooowww!

[furiosity.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I agree, it's really a pain. That's why I'm crosslinking the posts; I figure, people who are interested in reading other comments will use the opportunity to do so, and those who aren't, won't.

I thought about turning off comments on all but one post, but that's disrespectful towards people who refuse to use the journal that post is sitting on, be it LJ, GJ, IJ, or JF.

[catrinella.livejournal.com]

I have to say that when I saw your crosslinking thing, I literally sighed in relief. While I am still not entirely comfy with crossposting (mostly because of the commenting issue), just knowing where else you posted made me feel a little more grounded.

So, thanks. :)

[emmagrant01.livejournal.com]

Crosslinking is a good idea. I think I'll start doing that.

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

Yours is one post that I do regret the discontinuity, because you usually get such a vast and fascinating response to your posts.

I have to say, part of this is my own deer-in-the-headlights reaction.

[prilbrum.livejournal.com]

I am fairly despondent about the whole thing. I was never the virtuoso lj user in the first place--and now everyone is scattered and I really am not sure about the time and energy to keep up with four journals. On top of that, so many links to fics are now locked, or may come down from lj, that there is a huge task still ahead--finding alternate links to stories on my Delicious page (if alternates exist). Me and thousands of others must be biting their nails over that problem!!!

What a punch in the gut to fandom, post-DH, when we should be wallowing in fic and fun and talk.

Having said that--I am not anxious to add to the gloom and doom. I had such a good time reading DH, that I certainly don't want to let lj vibe overshadow all of that.

[no-mad-skillz.livejournal.com]

*agrees wholeheartedly with every word*

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'd put my own reaction down as 'bewildered' followed by 'sad'. There are repercussions to every scenario that we haven't worked out very well, but it's all moving so quickly. And you're right: it's completely overshadowed our joy/sadness/mystification over DH.

[aubrem.livejournal.com]

Yes, I am not liking this mirror posting thing at all.

Oh, and welcome home and good luck with catching up RL stuff. : )

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

I think those posting to 4 journals will soon pull in their horns, because there's just no way...

I'm still behind! *woe*

[mad-martha.livejournal.com]

I'm resigned to most of my flist disappearing shortly. I don't do "change" well and don't particularly want to move to whichever blogging site is the flavour-de-jour, so I suspect I will shortly be talking to myself over here :-( I certainly won't be able to keep up with all the different blogs on different sites - hell, most of them will be friends-locked.

It's pretty depressing actually. I liked the sense of community here, but with everyone disappearing to different places I think that will go. I've been in one other fandom that went into self-combust, but by the time it did that I was more than than half out of it anyway. I'm not ready to let go of HP yet ...

[no-mad-skillz.livejournal.com]

*pathetically clings to you*

[fabularasa.livejournal.com]

Yes, you are exactly right. It is why I think this exodus is a mistake of the first order; LJ may not be the place of our dreams, and interacting on LJ as artists and writers may require more caution and circumspection than we have shown heretofore, but it is still the best and only option out there. The deletions of accounts, the confusion over TOS, the rudeness of consumer interaction -- NONE OF IT is worth the permanent shattering of fandom. None of it.

But that's a highly unpopular opinion right now, so I'm only saying it here. I hope that collective fannish hysteria will have died down in a couple of months when people see that there is, in fact, no mass exodus going on, and will stop this ridiculous mirror posting.

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

that's a highly unpopular opinion right now,

I'm just piping up to say that I agree with you. As Ron Weasley would say, "Bad idea, bad idea."

I'm tempted to make an icon reading: "LJ Brouhaha '07: Fandom shoots itself in the foot".

[anabellhenry.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure I'd call the whole cross posting thing ridiculous as was mentioned above, but you're absolutely right about the inherent problems. I'm trying to see this as a temporary thing where we run around like chickens with our heads cut off, maintaining three or more journals at once, and then fandom pretty much settles at IJ or (or elsewhere), or the fuss dies down at LJ because 6A follows procedures.

At least, that's what I'm hoping for.

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

I think my tendency towards inertia (which is elegant speech for "I'm paralyzed into inaction) will serve me well for the next few months.

Watch and wait, I guess.

[no-mad-skillz.livejournal.com]

*sigh* This all makes me so sad, and I'm rarely more than a lurker.

Good luck with your real life catch-up. Ought to do some of that myself.

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

We should be talking about new canon and the movie and writing or drawing porn, and instead we're trying to keep track of our friends. It's all too sad, really.

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

I haven't even begun to work it out, even though a few of my dearest have left LJ for good. I just can't work that fast, I guess.

[sulky-rhino.livejournal.com]

Yup, that's sad. :( And it's a bit confusing too, because sometimes Sparkly Poo answers my post on LJ, and sometimes on IJ. :(

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

Hopefully, the four-posters will soon slim down to two journals only.

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

And I shall catch up with you soon. I understand that people will make that choice to avoid posting at LJ, and I'm not saying that it shouldn't be an option. But there is a cost. Posting at two journals is way better than four, though.

here via metafandom...

[calime]

You've voiced the exact same concern I've been mulling over lately. Maybe you'd find this to be of interest - there's a possibility that squidge.org will set up a kind of a fannish social linking/network service, to collate people's sites and blogs and offer the possibility to interaction in one place.

Re: here via metafandom...

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

Would this be fandom 3.0 (with 1.0 being list servers and 2.0 being LJ)? That would be interesting!

Another take on crossposting

[morgandawn.livejournal.com]

I tell people *not* to friend my JF or IJ etc journals unless they've moved off LJ altogether Or don't want to/don't know how to set up an RSS feed with a stand alone feed reader that will read my protected posts. If the person has left LJ and is no longer posting or reading there then by definition the connectivity has already been lost. If they're using Semagic and cross-posting like I am, we should all read/respond on one site.

but this reminds me I have to update my LJs on the other sites to make this clear.

Re: Another take on crossposting

[zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com]

So, are you saying you refuse to interact with people unless they give up their LJs? Why?

[zing_och.livejournal.com]

Some people crosspost, but turn off commenting on the crossposts and link the "primary" post so that people interact there. That's a great solution for me. I'm resigned to the fact that I'll have to maintain two flists - on LJ and IJ. Currently I'm trying to organize it so that I don't see everything twice.

[geoviki.livejournal.com]

I just...I just want to go back on vacation and not think about all these complexities. But I like your solution very much.

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

Every time I read one of those 'but why won't you clarify your position on text?' I want to go round and slap the person. LJ has clarified as far as they can. They said it's rare that they suspend for text. Have people simply got no sense any more?

I am also fuckin' weary of the kneejerk hostility to LJ/6A. i may have to give up blogging and do something more productive ;-)