Draco

Jul. 27th, 2007 10:15 pm
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I have to say it was no surprise to me that Jo and I have differing views of Draco. Hell, half of my flist and I have differing views of Draco! In DH he did what Jo needed him to for her purposes - mainly to get a couple of wands in place and provide some UST in Harry's life. And she put him back on the shelf when he was done. Her call.

But...

But...

Even she gave us something in canon that I didn't even pick up on until I reread the fire scene more slowly.

First, she gives all the bad business in that scene to Crabbe, not Draco. Crabbe's the one who says they stayed behind to catch Harry and deliver him to Voldy, he's the one casting all the Unforgivables, he's the one who starts the fire. And he dismisses Draco in front of everyone, telling him: Who cares what you think? I don’t take your orders no more, Draco. You an’ your dad are finished.

In contrast, Draco's all talk (no surprise) -- how he wants his wand back, how he got in. Then he focuses on stopping Crabbe from destroying the room and killing Harry, although it's never made clear why he's doing this. He never casts a single spell, although he loses his (mother's) wand early on, so he didn't have much opportunity. Then the Fiendfyre is let loose and everyone runs:

Malfoy grabbed the Stunned Goyle and dragged him along....

Wow. He didn't just run full-tilt toward the door, as we would expect a selfish coward to do. Instead, he runs while dragging a stunned and, we already know, ginormous guy. Not at all easy. Or predictible. Not the action of someone looking out for number 1.

The fire worsens, Harry hears a thin, piteous human scream from amidst the terrible commotion, the thunder of devouring flame, and he turns to see:

Malfoy with his arms around the unconscious Goyle, the pair of them perched on a fragile tower of charred desks, and Harry dived. Malfoy saw him coming and raised one arm, but even as Harry grasped it he knew at once that it was no good. Goyle was too heavy and Malfoy’s hand, covered in sweat, slid instantly out of Harry’s –

So he's carried Goyle somehow to this precarious island in a sea of flame, and here comes Draco's one chance to be saved...and he doesn't let go of Goyle. He doesn't abandon Goyle to save himself in what might be his only chance to live.

Ron and Hermione make it possible to save both of them, and what's the first thing out of Draco's mouth when they're safe:

"C-Crabbe," choked Malfoy as soon as he could speak. "C-Crabbe…"

I don't think Jo planned to have us all think Draco's the coolest thing since the iPhone. I'm just saying she doesn't condemn him as much as we think, and that there's still a lot of wiggle room for us Draco fans to work in.

What say you?

Date: 2007-07-28 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemonade8.livejournal.com
Bella mentions how Draco probably couldn't stomach "taking care" of the snatchers on the front lawn. Meaning he has no taste for murder. He also knew perfectly well that was Hermione Granger (the mudblood who punched him) and Ron Weasley and possibly Harry Potter in his living room. I think he didn't want to see them tortured and murdered. He waffled about casting doubt, doing the only thing he could probably think of at that moment to give them a chance to escape or SOMETHING.

And Harry and Ron saved him (wasn't it twice?) during the battle of Hogwarts. I think he was redeemable long before this point, and Dumbledore knew it. He spoke of saving Draco's soul, of valuing him, of wanting to help him. I think that seeing all of the atrocities that Voldemort was displaying and seeing who is willing to help and to save him and his family could be grounds for him changing his life. That was more than a kick in the pants, that was a yearlong bucket of ice water thrown on him. And his nod to Harry at the end says they have a truce. (lol, and for H/D hors, UST, BABY!!)

I think Draco became a man.

Date: 2007-07-28 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] norton-gale.livejournal.com
I think Draco became a man.

I totally agree with you! The experience of the war is what finally redeemed him. Look how Lucius Malfoy taunted Arthur Weasley as adults; Draco doesn't do that with Harry at the end. Definitely a truce, or an end to hostility.

Date: 2007-07-28 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodyrose82.livejournal.com
I think apparently I'm incapable of making myself clear, because I'm not disputing anything you just said in the top paragraph.

As for the second, I think the idea of a redeemable Draco is laughable. You have to be in a position where you need to be redeemed in the first place, surely?

It's possibly the most tossed about, and incorrect, notion of fandom.

And again, redemption is very different from saving a child. Not that anyone did save any integrity Draco had - he did that himself.

Date: 2007-07-28 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemonade8.livejournal.com
Ouch. Well, it WAS late when I typed this. I wasn't exactly disagreeing with all of your points, either.

I do disagree that Draco didn't need to be redeemed, though. I think that the way he was going before Voldy traumatized him was a bad one for his soul. The pureblood rhetoric that he was spouting was so harmful and wrong that he needed to be made aware of why and how. If Harry hadn't shown him remorse after doing sectusempra on him, if Dumbledore hadn't offered to help prise him out of Voldy's hands, if Hermione hadn't been such an amazing witch, if his mother didn't love him beyond all others, and if he hadn't been shown firsthand that ending lives of innocents is one of the most horrible things imaginable... I think these things were his catalyst for change, and I truly think he needed to change.

That's all I'm saying. I didn't mean he didn't have to do it himself, because that's where real change takes place, but I think he had some serious growing to do and that others had a hand in it. I don't think it's laughable.

Date: 2007-07-28 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodyrose82.livejournal.com
LOL no no...I wasn't trying to get at you...I was frustrated with MYSELF, for my inability to find the words I need to try and express myself over this. I ended up writing my own essay post instead, to try and systematically hash it out in my own head.

I think growing up is a different concept from redemption. As is having a few misguided opinions that you seriously need to rethink (which, btw, I don't think Dumbledore or Hermione made him see. He saw it because of the sheer struggle with himself during the course of HBP. I don't consider a last-minute offer of protection as Dumbledore's 'big intervention'). Redemption is a huge concept, and one which I think is just...disgusting when applied to a child in this way.

If anyone needed redeeming then it's Lucius Malfoy, not his son.

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