a) if the fic is inherently a gift, then it doesn't really lose that charecteristic because it's posted elsewhere, it's always a gift fic.
But when it's reposted elsewhere, that isn't where the recipient is looking for her present, right? In the context of the gift exchange, it's a gift. Outside that context, it's a story that an author chose to post publically. Like, it's the difference between the people at your birthday commenting on the ugly orange sweater your Aunt Marge gave you, and your hair dresser commenting on the ugly orange sweater you chose to wear to get your hair done in. Same object, different contexts.
what about authors who don't repost?
Authors who don't repost, to my way of thinking, haven't chosen that story to be representative of their work. Sometimes you write something for an exchange, and it's just not something you would have written, given your druthers. Or you ran out of time before the exchange to rewrite it to your satisfaction, but you submitted so as not to be banned from future participation. If they don't repost it publically, out of the context of the exchange, they're not looking for criticism on that story. For whatever reasons, they aren't interested in it anymore.
And, yes, sometimes the reason is just "I totally forgot" but, you know, life is not perfect.
as i've mentioned to bethbethbeth below, "your story sucks" wouldn't ever qualify as concrit in my book. that's never an appropriate comment to say to anyone - author, recipient, mod or innocentbystander.
Well, I'm glad you have such wisdom and discernment. Do you believe that everyone in fandom has your delicacy of feeling? Do you believe that you can, succinctly, clearly, and in a way that will be universally accepted, define concrit?
I don't. I don't even think it's healthy to try to define concrit (although I do think it's a good idea to discuss how to go about giving it.) But I don't think you get to the intelligent and helpful concrit without giving people the space in which to say, "The story sucks." And I know that intelligent and thoughtful people can sincerely disagree as to whether or not modes of argument are rude or belittling. (http://dkwilliams.livejournal.com/72428.html?thread=292332)
I think the only realistic method for concrit is to either allow everything or ban it all. In this particular instance, because it's more about the recipient than the writer, I'm in favor of banning it in the community.
I'm not particularly aghast at the people talking about the stories, in whatever manner, in their own LJs. I think it's tacky to criticize the fics publically before the reveals, but I fully realize that tackiness is in the eye of the beholder.
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But when it's reposted elsewhere, that isn't where the recipient is looking for her present, right? In the context of the gift exchange, it's a gift. Outside that context, it's a story that an author chose to post publically. Like, it's the difference between the people at your birthday commenting on the ugly orange sweater your Aunt Marge gave you, and your hair dresser commenting on the ugly orange sweater you chose to wear to get your hair done in. Same object, different contexts.
Authors who don't repost, to my way of thinking, haven't chosen that story to be representative of their work. Sometimes you write something for an exchange, and it's just not something you would have written, given your druthers. Or you ran out of time before the exchange to rewrite it to your satisfaction, but you submitted so as not to be banned from future participation. If they don't repost it publically, out of the context of the exchange, they're not looking for criticism on that story. For whatever reasons, they aren't interested in it anymore.
And, yes, sometimes the reason is just "I totally forgot" but, you know, life is not perfect.
Well, I'm glad you have such wisdom and discernment. Do you believe that everyone in fandom has your delicacy of feeling? Do you believe that you can, succinctly, clearly, and in a way that will be universally accepted, define concrit?
I don't. I don't even think it's healthy to try to define concrit (although I do think it's a good idea to discuss how to go about giving it.) But I don't think you get to the intelligent and helpful concrit without giving people the space in which to say, "The story sucks." And I know that intelligent and thoughtful people can sincerely disagree as to whether or not modes of argument are rude or belittling. (http://dkwilliams.livejournal.com/72428.html?thread=292332)
I think the only realistic method for concrit is to either allow everything or ban it all. In this particular instance, because it's more about the recipient than the writer, I'm in favor of banning it in the community.
I'm not particularly aghast at the people talking about the stories, in whatever manner, in their own LJs. I think it's tacky to criticize the fics publically before the reveals, but I fully realize that tackiness is in the eye of the beholder.